BRINGING UP BOWIE
Mad at god, in love with fatherhood, and back in the studio with
tony visconti,
david bowie confronts his own history on heathen
"Nothing ever happens in my life," David Bowie insists. It's a
surprising
declaration, coming from the man who introduced bisexual chic to rock
culture back
in the '70s, and whose passion for experimentation--musical and
otherwise--led many
to speculate that his space-alien persona was no mere fiction. But
Bowie has always
loved to surprise people. And apparently he's quite serious in his
contention that
he leads the most ordinary of lives.
"I really do. For the last 10 years, I've been married. End of story.
And before
that, in the '80s, what really happened? It all seems pretty tame
compared to what I
see on Behind the Music! I don't think I would make a very interesting
Behind the
Music. I feel like my friend Moby, who is constantly complaining, 'I'm
really
famous, but nothing famous ever happens to me.' I look back over a
40-year period
and what's really happened has been on stage and on record. Other than
that, it's
been a quiet life, and I like it that way."
Bowie's slender, graceful hands ease the lid off a cardboard box
containing
snapshots of his toddler daughter, Alexandria. The chameleonic,
55-year-old
superstar is no newcomer to fatherhood. Zowie, his first son by a
previous marriage,
was born in 1971. But Bowie says that it's only with the arrival of
"Lexie" that
he's bought into the domestic, paternal role in a really big way. Home
for Mr. and
Mrs. Bowie--she is the former fashion model Iman--is Manhattan's
downtown, bohemian
SoHo neighborhood.
"Down here, I've really fallen prey to the 'never go above 14th Street'
law," he
says. "I'm so at home here. It seems like everybody I used to know has
ended up
here. Julian Schnabel lives nearby and Moby is virtually my neighbor.
It reminds me
a little of Berlin, in that it's very easy to be anonymous down here.
Nobody bothers
me. To take a book and go sit at a sidewalk cafe is a real possibility.
That's
something I could never accomplish in London or uptown Manhattan. But
Iman and I
spend a lot of time at home, especially now that we have a daughter. My
wife cooks
very well. And if we do go out to a restaurant, it's usually just a few
blocks away.
We've become neighborhood people in that regard. We don't socialize all
that much,
and neither of us hanker for it. Life is full and rich because it's
about 'us' and
we enjoy 'us.' We enjoy bringing up baby--a lot of real corny things.
I'm just very
happy to do them."
This cozy portrait of Bowie's home life forms a stark contrast with the
mood of his
new album. Heathen recalls the dark, despairing tone of Bowie's
late-'70s Berlin
trilogy (Low, Heroes and Lodger). The word "fear" figures prominently
in four of
Heathen's 12 songs. There's "fear overhead and fear over ground" in
"these days, the
strangest of all," Bowie sings on one track, "Slow Burn," to the
accompaniment of
strafing guitar lines by guest guitarist Pete Townshend.
Bowie says he named his new album Heathen, "because Philistine was too
on-the-money.
But I was trying to rope in all the meanings for the word: a destroyer,
someone who
doesn't understand, somebody who recognizes no God. It's a quandary,
which, I think,
is current with the times. This is not the first time I've actually
used that word.
I used it, quite strangely, in a piece written about the Arab world and
Christian
world, 'Loving the Alien,' which mentions both heathens and infidels."
It's hard not to regard Heathen as a post-Sept. 11 album. But it isn't.
"It was
lyrically all together in August, when we recorded," says Bowie. "This
is just one
of those situations where so many tracks seem to relate to that, but I
hesitate to
use that as any kind of key to the album, because it doesn't have
anything to do
with that. But God, it sure is appropriate."
Many of the lyrics, Bowie explains, arose out of the perennial parental
question:
What kind of world have I brought my child into? One track, "A Better
Future," is
sung directly to God and takes the form of a helplessly human threat,
"I demand a
better future, or I might just stop loving you."
"A lot of the songs are addressed to God," Bowie confesses. "And my
questions about
spiritual life are straightforward and very naive. They are, 'If there
is a God,
where the fuck are you? If you are there, how can you allow this to
happen?' I'm
sorry, but to allow any 3-year-old child to bleed away on the street is
not
something that I find mystical and wonderful. I have a big problem with
that.
There's a lot of vengeance in this album. I guess sometimes you develop
an
ambivalence toward the higher spirit, or whatever, which, at points,
approaches
anger."
Musically, Heathen recalls the glories of classic Bowie. "Oh, not
again," he winces.
"Not another one!" But this time it's true. Without sounding dated,
Heathen embraces
the epic ballad drama worthy of "Space Oddity," oblique strategies that
wouldn't be
out of place on Low, and glam-y slash-and-burn rockers that can stand
shoulder to
shoulder with "Suffragette City" and "Diamond Dogs."
"I wanted to gather an awful lot of what I'm good at and put [it all]
into one piece
of work," Bowie admits, "and not be shy or embarrassed or feel, 'Oh,
I'm returning
to something I've already done.' I think I was able to sidestep the
idea of it being
at all retro. But it certainly smacks of what I do. It's not trying to
be
dangerously new. On the whole, I think they're just well-crafted songs.
I haven't
been scared of melody this time. There were times in the past when
melody seemed an
encumbrance. But for this album, I was working in kind of an individual
cultural
restoration."
Heathen also reunites Bowie with producer Tony Visconti, who was at the
helm for
many of the greatest David Bowie albums, including Space Oddity, The
Man Who Sold
the World, Young Americans and the aforementioned Berlin trilogy. "I've
been waiting
to do this for the last four or five years," says Bowie. "Tony and I
sort of got
reintroduced to each other--over what I really can't remember now. And
for both of
us, it was just a matter of waiting till the time was right and we knew
we could go
in and work together with a new sensibility, without trying to
recapture old
glories."
Strange to say, one of the most poignant ballads on Heathen, "Slip
Away" is about
New York-area, kiddie-show host Uncle Floyd. A kitsch favorite among
rock 'n'
rollers (the Ramones were frequent guests on his low-budget show),
Uncle Floyd's
puppets Bones and Oogie figure as characters in the song.
"In the late '70s, when Iggy Pop and I were living in New York, we'd
rush back home
to our apartments at five o'clock in the afternoon because Uncle Floyd
was on
television," Bowie remembers. "It was the most hilarious thing on
television at the
time. It was supposed to be a kid's show, but it worked extremely well
for adults as
well. Not that Iggy and I were particularly adult. And Uncle Floyd was
offered this
huge national slot, to go to NBC or something like that, and become, I
guess, a kind
of precursor to Pee Wee. Or a latter-day Soupy Sales. But he just said
no. He wanted
to continue broadcasting from his living room in New Jersey, or
wherever it was. And
he kind of sank without a trace."
Bowie does a frighteningly accurate impersonation of Uncle Floyd's New
York-boroughs, working-class accent in recounting a recent phone
conversation he had
with the former TV host: "He told me, 'Hey, I still work a lot. I do
bar mitzvahs. I
did a police stag ball the other day. So if you ever want an opening
act. ..."
Out of such low, comedic material, Bowie has fashioned a wistful
meditation on lost
opportunities and bittersweet nostalgia. "Slip Away" is graced with one
of those
soaring string arrangements Visconti has always done so well. The
slightly
out-of-tune piano (Bowie deliberately had it detuned) really tugs at
the tear ducts.
"There's a 'loss of innocence' quality about the song," he says. "I
suspect that's
what it's really about. Or, rather, trying to regain that innocence
through the
song--that sense of fun, lightness and silliness that's gone now."
Much of what people think of as "classic David Bowie"--particularly
when it comes to
ballads like "Slip Away"--has to do with the chord progressions. Right
from his
late-'60s invention of himself as David Bowie, the former David Jones
introduced a
style of modulation--meandering, ethereal yet highly dramatic--that
hadn't existed
in rock before. "Frequently, they're the kinds of chord changes you'd
find in the
French chanson," Bowie explains. "Oh, I used to love Jacques Brel and
Edith Piaf and
that whole tradition of French song. There were chord changes that were
terribly
emotive. You didn't find them in rock, but I thought, 'I want to use
them!' But at
the same time, they were often joined with straight-ahead Motown chord
sequences.
They sounded like odd juxtapositions at first. But now that's just
naturally a part
of the way I write. I still use those things. Edith Piaf could have
done 'Slip
Away.' But I doubt if she had much knowledge of Uncle Floyd."
Tony Visconti was one of the first people to grasp Bowie's "odd
juxtapositions." The
two first worked together on some tracks Bowie did for BBC radio's Top
Gear program
in 1967. "Ha! All those BBC things where I didn't know if I was Edith
Piaf or
Anthony Newley," Bowie laughs. "Probably both." It was the start of a
long and
fruitful collaboration.
"Tony was one of those Americans who was very much drawn to the British
quirkiness
when he first came over to Britain in the '60s," Bowie recalls. "He was
brought over
to do the string parts for Denny Laine's Electric String band, which
was Denny
Laine's first foray into being a solo artist, having left the Moody
Blues. Tony
loved England and stayed on. And then he was drawn to our emerging
underground
there--Middle Earth and all of that. [One of London's first psychedelic
venues,
Middle Earth was the scene of gigs by an early Bowie band named
Feathers.] Tony
found Tyrannosaurus Rex. He was always drawn to these weirdies. And I
was one of
them! Tony has always understood me. We were both into Tibetan Buddhism
and things
like that. All this esoteric crap. And we both loved the same kinds of
music. We
both adored the Velvet Underground and the Fugs, which, believe me,
were completely
unwritten about in England. I will say to this day, I had to drag the
Velvet
Underground and the Stooges into British life. I think my contribution
to changing
music to another wave was to make people aware of those two artists.
Now, of course,
everybody claims them. But until I brought Lou and Iggy over to London
and had them
perform in London nobody ever wrote about them."
Bowie has been at the epicenter of more seminal music and social scenes
than perhaps
any member of the rock pantheon. He was there in the thick of mod,
Swinging London,
the Warhol crowd. ... Does he have any particular favorites?
"Well, the safest was the new German electronic music of the late '70s.
Because I
was trying passionately not to do drugs. And it was one of the first
movements I was
connected with, loosely, that I didn't feel was really drug fueled. And
that was a
good thing. All the others had their drugs attached to them. The mods,
particularly.
That was a pretty heavy drugs period for me. But it was all pills:
reds, blues and
blacks; downers, uppers and speed. Pill-popping time for me in the
mid-'60s.
"But I do think what Tony, Brian Eno and I did in the late '70s with
Low, Heroes and
Lodger was the most rewarding, because it was a way of developing a
language which I
could then use--and have done, off and on--over the years. Before that,
it was more
like copping an attitude on a certain genre of music. I had nothing
much to
contribute to soul music, but I had an attitude towards it that came
out as Young
Americans. And I guess it was kind of interesting, because it was very
much from a
European sensibility. I was aware of that. That was the difference. It
was like,
'All right, Jacques Brel with a Stax band: What happens?'
"Whereas the electronic German and European landscape that we found
ourselves
involved in in the very late '7Os was more about actually rewriting the
way that one
works. And no small part of that was due to Brian's very odd ideas, at
the time,
about how you work in the studio. They're ideas I still apply today.
Planned
accidents, Brian called them. In fact, the title of Lodger at one point
was going to
be Planned Accidents."
Bowie last worked with Eno on the 1997 single, "I'm Afraid of
Americans." But he
says he never considered bringing Eno in to work with him and Visconti
on Heathen.
"It's not Brian's kind of thing," he shrugs. "He's not interested in
doing songs ...
although he does work with U2. Brian's a brilliant little magpie. He
routinely
scours the avant-garde and drags what's interesting back into focus. I
think that's
what every artist that's worth his salt does--takes things that are too
lean and
slim and hard to grasp, and makes them accessible for a wide public."
While Bowie's electronic music pedigree is pretty unassailable, he took
some stick
in the '90s for hitching his wagon to the drum 'n' bass movement on
albums like
Outside and Earthling. "I think those two albums, and Buddha of
Suburbia were
incredibly strong and successful albums for me, personally," Bowie
counters. "I
think I went as far as anyone could go in melding songs onto drum 'n'
bass forms.
And it's an exciting form to work with as a musician, almost like a
latter
20th-Century fusion of some kind. But it is just another rhythm, which
is what all
drum things are. I couldn't believe people were getting on my case
because I was
using another rhythm. Especially in Britain. I was a little annoyed by
that inverted
class system thing. You have to know your place. You cannot move out of
the area
that you're supposed to be in. It permeates every aspect of the British
sensibility.
And in fact, I think laddishness promoted that even more. It was
absolutely
impossible to suggest anything at any kind of intellectual level
without being
called an artsy fartsy. I had to be, [thickie accent] 'Alright, oi've
got it. Big
tits! How about that? Is that all right?' Fortunately, it looks like
things have
worked themselves away from that now. But I'm still bemused by the
whole Robbie
Williams aspect of British pop. Posh Spice? It all looks like cruise
ship
entertainment to me."
Bowie adds that he "would not entirely like to lose drum 'n' bass. I
think I was not
alone in realizing, at the time, that it reached a ceiling where it was
not going to
get any more popular, because the time signatures were just too
complicated. But I
think it will become, even more, just one of the ways in which I work.
And if you
listen very carefully you'll hear that 'Sunday' on the new album is, in
fact, drum
'n' bass. I'm not lettin' go!"
But still, Heathen is a marked departure from Bowie's '90s work. This
is underscored
by the fact that he opted not to use longtime guitarist Reeves Gabrels,
bassist Gail
Ann Dorsey and keyboardist Mike Garson on the album. Instead, the disc
is anchored
by drummer Matt Chamberlain, with Visconti in his old role as Bowie's
bassist and
David Torn on guitar. Guest guitarists include, as mentioned, Pete
Townshend, as
well as Foo Fighter Dave Grohl and longtime Bowie cohort Carlos Alomar.
"I've often changed musicians in the past," Bowie says. "I don't feel
much band
loyalty. Friendship isn't part of the contract. Besides, I shall be
working with
many of my old people when I go back on the road again. I told them
flat out that I
wanted to try something new this time. It's nothing to do with
abilities. It just
comes to a point, when you've worked with someone for a very long time,
that you can
almost predict what they're going to play if you ask them to approach
something in a
certain way. I just needed to approach this album another way,
specifically when it
came to the guitar, bass and drums. I wanted to have another
interpretation of who I
am."
Although Bowie recorded some 17 songs for the album, only 12 made the
final cut.
Among them are three covers. There are homages to two of Bowie's
favorite artists;
he performs the Pixies' "Cactus" and Neil Young's "I've Been Waiting
for You." But
by far, the strangest cover on the disc is "I Took a Trip on a Gemini
Spacecraft."
On first listen, it seems almost like a parody of Space Oddity-era
Bowie. But it's
an actual 1969 song written by a character known as the Legendary
Stardust Cowboy.
"He was my stable mate in 1969 on Mercury Records," says Bowie, "from
whom I nicked
the name Stardust for Ziggy Stardust. He was this strange cowboy-type
guy from
Lubbock, Texas. He plays the guitar in his own way and doesn't really
sing, but
screams and yells and writes the most extraordinary lyrics. It is true
outsider art.
It puts Wild Man Fischer in the shade. 'Gemini' was always one of my
favorite songs
of his. And he did say on his Web site [Texas accent], 'Mah biggest
regret is that
David Bowie, who used my name, didn't ever do one of my songs.' I
thought, 'Well,
he's right. I'd better do something about that.'"
Heathen is Bowie's debut release on his own Columbia-distributed label,
Iso Records.
Even before work began on the album, his former deal with Virgin had
started to go
sour. "The last two years were a nightmare," he grimaces. The original
plan was for
Iso to function as an indie, signing new artists and bringing out
Bowie's own work.
But he ultimately decided to forge a distribution deal with Columbia.
"I really had to throw my eggs in the Columbia basket," he says. "In
order to go
completely independent with Iso, it would have taken me 18 months to
put things
together. And I just wasn't prepared to wait that long to put Heathen
out. I want it
out this year. I'm 55!"
The way Bowie sees it, "there probably won't be a music business in two
years. There
won't be any copyright and nobody will be making any money from it. The
move from
analog to digital has rendered everything we know completely useless. I
really think
this is the Gutenberg Bible. Analog costs money. Digital is free."
Coming from the man behind Bowie Bonds and the highly successful
BowieNet, this
seems like more than just alarmism. But what about the fate of dear old
rock 'n'
roll?
"Oh, that's been very sick for a long time," Bowie laughs. "You know
the Bible was
very powerful when it was only in the hands of the priests. But it
changed an awful
lot once it was printed up and allowed out and everybody got to read
it. People
started adding to it and having their own opinions. I think a similar
thing has
happened to popular music as well. It's no longer some kind of Holy
Grail, as maybe
it was when it first appeared on the streets in the '50s. Now it's a
commodity, an
everyday thing like any other product we use or eat. So its value has
changed an
awful lot. It doesn't have the same place in our hearts that it had
before. That's
OK. But it will be treated in a different way."
Like the picture of Dorian Gray, rock seems to be showing signs of
advanced age
while David Bowie remains eternally youthful. "I box," he says by way
of explaining
his health regimen. "I started in '83 on the Serious Moonlight tour.
That's why I'm
on the [album] cover boxing. I always liked boxing at school, and I
just found it
was the best way to stay fit. There's something about the 'round,
break, round,
break' discipline that's not dissimilar to the 'song, break, song,
break' structure
of playing a show."
Even more importantly, it seems that Bowie's thinking has remained
youthful as well.
He keeps abreast of current music, and can drop names like Godspeed You
Black
Emperor! and Grandaddy without embarrassing himself. He's curating this
year's
cutting edge Meltdown Festival in London and will probably assemble the
most diverse
bill in the fest's history--everyone from Little Richard to Daniel
Johnston to the
Lonesome Organist. Unlike many of his peers--Pete Townshend and Bob
Dylan come to
mind--Bowie doesn't seem burdened or intimidated by his own past.
There's an
unself-conscious ease in the way he references his history on Heathen,
which is a
big factor in why the album doesn't seem retro.
"I guess it's because I don't really feel I have so much of a tradition
as someone
like Pete, or Mick and Keith," he says. "For those kinds of artists,
the genre they
work in is pretty clear-cut. I think, because I've always been such a
butterfly, I
don't really feel genre loyalty in that way. It's never become baggage
for me. It
doesn't intimidate me at all. I don't look back very much. I'm
activated by what I'm
doing rather than what I've done."
Taken from the August 2002 issue of Pulse! Magazine.
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The cover
The index picture
The title picture
Golden Years
David and Tony
"Heroes"
David Bowie's Dids
The Man Who Sold The World
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